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Discussion: HIM swim times

Subject: HIM swim times

By: Michael S.

Written on: Monday April 09, 2012

Message: just curious about your HIM swim times....I am not looking to see if you are a fish out a water or that you are a phenom with swimming (I am sure some of you are though). I am looking to compare what you swam it in and try to make myself feel better about my swim time, or more acuratly reasure myself I wont suck at it, so please be honest. I did an Oly Dist. in 40 min and have not done a measured swim for tim this season as i lose count of laps or get obored wth swimming.

Thanks again...

Subject: RE: HIM swim times

By: Ronald F.

Written on: Monday April 09, 2012

Message: Don't concern yourself much about the swim. Get through it in a way that leaves you ready to kick butt on the bike and run.
Some guys can do that Oly swim in half your time and still get their butts kicked on the bike and run and overall. Not that I know anybody that it happens to regularly:)

Subject: RE: HIM swim times

By: ian d.

Written on: Monday April 09, 2012

Message: Pretty much what Ron says. The ONLY concerns you may need over swim times are

1) if you wish to podium.
2) if you want to finish in X:YY time
3) the cutoffs (if they exist) in your race.

Rule of thumb:

If 1) or 2) is appropriate for you, then look at the last couple/few year's results and see what people that podiumed/did X:YY-ish did for each leg (and T1/2!!). There will be variations of course - but I#ll wager not wildly.

If not, a 40 minute 1500m equates to a 43 minute 1900m. that is WAY within a cutoff.

I reiterate though - it really depends on what your race goals are. BUT - you race goals must be realistic wrt baseline (now!) and time to race and the training you can put in.

You'll be fine with a 43 minute swim - I did 46 min at Austria in 2010 and that included a split swim with a 200m run inbetween lakes in the middle. I was about 2/3rds the way through my AG with that time - ie LOTS of people behind me on the swim.

didds
(who did 1350m in a 9 degree lake this morning :-)

Subject: RE: HIM swim times

By: Michael S.

Written on: Monday April 09, 2012

Message: thanks guys!!!

to the other 100 plus lurkers out there thanks for your input also...NOT!!!

Subject: RE: HIM swim times

By: Willard H.

Written on: Monday April 09, 2012

Message: I agree with what the others say in general. I have had 35 and 38 minute Olys, and felt that they should've been faster. However, there were plenty of people behind me. If you feel slow, use that as motivation to work harder, but also don't be too hard of yourself, and have fun.

Subject: RE: HIM swim times

By: Paul B.

Written on: Monday April 09, 2012

Message:
Agree with Didds...40 min is fine for an olympic, a HIM is less swim-weighted race than a HIM. In other words, if you are a fish, do olympics. If you are a better biker/runner and a fairly poor swimmer, HIM is for you (and me!)

Subject: RE: HIM swim times

By: James T.

Written on: Tuesday April 10, 2012

Message: If you're over 25 minutes for 1900m don't even bother. Give up triathlon and take up knitting or something.
There, what did you expect us to say? You're going to race anyway. You know you can!
Good luck, and so long as you're faster than Didds, you'll be fine.

Subject: RE: HIM swim times

By: Michael S.

Written on: Tuesday April 10, 2012

Message: thanks james...nice, very nice. I have thought about starting a new buissness venture...Male Handbags, I am sure Jim K would want one, anyone else? I guess the Ladies can have one too...

Subject: RE: HIM swim times

By: James T.

Written on: Tuesday April 10, 2012

Message: Put me down for one of those bags. I need to get Didds a birthday present! (Oh boy, I'm starting something here :))

Subject: RE: HIM swim times

By: Ronald F.

Written on: Tuesday April 10, 2012

Message: Oh yea Man purses.
Kinda like a marble sack that a kid might have before they grow their own.

Subject: RE: HIM swim times

By: Michael S.

Written on: Thursday April 12, 2012

Message: or the kind we all used to have before we got married....doh!! Actually was gonna make em real manly like and make em out of duct tape...

Subject: RE: HIM swim times

By: Ronald F.

Written on: Thursday April 12, 2012

Message: Red Green is that you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ4 9v0Vfenw&feature=fvwrel

Subject: RE: HIM swim times

By: Sasha C.

Written on: Thursday April 12, 2012

Message: Damn, Ronald. Great stuff. As with all good satire it only barely departs from reality. Although I'm less imaginative I have always operated from precisely the same principles. I once held my steering bracket together with duct tape and DROVE to the parts shop for the piece I needed. I muffled a clanging universal joint so well with duct tape that I forgot it was a problem until the joint went completely and stranded me on the highway. I didn't want to call a locksmith when I lost my car keys, so I forced a wood screw down the ignition, jerked the whole lock out with the ever handy vice grips and drove for years by sticking my finger down the remaining hole. I always used to replace broken window levers with vice grips, and one day at the garage my mechanic said,"Did I tell you about that?" I said I'd figured it out for myself and he told me he'd been doing it for years. "And the beauty part," he said, (yes Mr Green's words exactly) "is you always have an extra vice grips if you need it to hold something under the hood." The number of times I've sawed a line with the side of a drill, or given up on a hack saw and turned to a chain saw is unknowable. I have sharpened tools by super-gluing emery paper to the blade of my circular saw. When I was painting houses I once needed a longer ladder and didn't want to buy one. My landlord had a wooden one behind the garage and I borrowed it without asking. Up near the peak of a VIctorian a rung snapped and I went through the next three before one held. Buster Keaton stuff. My brush sprayed paint all over the wall as I slid.
I took the ladder back and confessed to my landlord that I had "borrowed" it and he told me it had belonged to his uncle, and was almost a hundred years old.
How have I lived this long without Red Green?

Subject: RE: HIM swim times

By: ian d.

Written on: Saturday April 14, 2012

Message: jamesT: Good luck, and so long as you're faster than Didds, you'll be fine.

ha! My PB for 1500m is just under 32 minutes so there. ha!

But Michael - you WILL be fine. :-) At least your not Welsh.

didds

Subject: RE: HIM swim times

By: James T.

Written on: Saturday April 14, 2012

Message: Didds - I'm now "in country" so you better be careful. See you on Sunday!

Subject: RE: HIM swim times

By: ian d.

Written on: Sunday April 15, 2012

Message: Well, by the time you'd got out of bed Sunday was nearly over!!

Great to see you again buddy.


watch out for them roundabouts.

didds

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